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Odd ball arisaka

 
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Pleonardo



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:43 pm    Post subject: Odd ball arisaka Reply with quote

Hey guys
I'm new to the site, seems very well setup. I recently found an arisaka that's am really stumped on. It seems to be in a type 38 configuration but in a small caliper. No mum on the reciver instead another symbol. Can someone please help me out with this.
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gwsiii



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:49 pm    Post subject: rifle Reply with quote

Post a picture of the receiver, it is most likely a training rifle. Trey
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry but this was the only way I could give you a pic. Scroll through the jeep pics the rifle is there. http://photobucket.com/albums/jj632/petervleonardo
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject: Trainer Reply with quote

Pretty neat, that has all the features of the 7/8 Scale Child's Trainer!
I've never seen one with that receiver marking. Can you get a clearer shot of the receiver marking?
Here are the pics in one place.








Please fill out a trainer datasheet for Chip Goddard. I'll see if I can get him to drop by and comment. Thanks for posting. Trey
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still having trouble posting pics with my iPhone new photos are up on that link I provided prior. I used a last ditch 38 for comparison, seems the rifle in question is an inch longer and does fully function with a rifled barrel. Thanks Pete
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:48 am    Post subject: pics Reply with quote

It's commonly called a 7/8th Scale Child's Trainer. That looks to be a very early one. Here are the rest of the pics. It fired short reduced charged gallery rounds and had a special bayonet. It was made to reduced scale to be easier to handle. They are pretty neat. I sent Chip an email, hopefully he'll be along in a bit...Be sure to fill out a datasheet and send to him.



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seinen



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys,

Sorry I'm late to the discussion. The trainer shown is a Nambu "7/8 Child's" trainer. The stock brand reads "3rd Public School" and the receiver marking is a logo designating ownership by that same institution. I once owned a 7/8 Child's trainer in the 23K serial number range that was marked in an identical manner. Hope this helps, but feel free to pose additional questions.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys this really helped. I have a couple more questions. First how hard would it be to find a bayonet for this and what do they look like? Second what caliper ammo does this take? Should I remove the shilack from the stock? And finally for my own piece of mind what is the general value of the rifle? Thanks guys
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seinen



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bayonets are a lot harder to find than the trainers. Expect to pay $350 to >$500 for them, depnding on the variant (three are known). The trainer shoots the 6.5 mm so-called gallery round. I have no idea what "shilack" means. Can you clarify?

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Pleonardo



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I meant the clear coating on the gun. What is the aprox. value of the gun?
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seinen



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it were me, I'd leave the clear coat as is. Hard to say what the wood condition might be underneath it. Values on these run $150 to $200. They're by no means rare. Over 80K were made and survival rate was high. The bayonets are another story.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:54 pm    Post subject: rifle Reply with quote

Chip, thanks much for the info!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys
This was in a deal with about 10 other arisakas and k98s. The previous owner and I both put a high value on it due to the lack of knowledge. I ended up paying around 400 for it. Oh we'll live and learn thanks guys.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're welcome Trey. Always happy to assist.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:38 pm    Post subject: Price of 7/8 Trainer. Reply with quote

If it will make you feel better I had one a while back and sold it for $350.
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