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Earl
Joined: Sep 01 2003 Posts: 9
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 7:20 am Post subject: We helped.. |
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All I know is that we Americans aided in the mum destruction process. There are many, many documented cases of Americans being the ones doing the defacing. Sometimes at collection/distribution points and sometimes it would seem in the APO process. I've talked to many that shipped home rifles with intact mums but when they arrived, the mums were ground.
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Eloldehombre1 Guest
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 3:32 am Post subject: Struck Mums |
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1) It is documented that the Japanese defaced the mums on rifles before the surrender. 2) It is documented that after surrender Japanese workers ground mums off rifles before rifles sent to U. S. ships in Tokyo Bay. 3.) Many of the rifles imported from China in the mid-80s had ground mums.
This seems to indicate that rifles to be surrendered to the enemy had the mum defaced or, if time permitted, ground by the Japanese. In some matter this 'wish' to remove the Emperos'r symbol was transmitted to, and oked, by Allied authorities
When Law was researching his book on the K98k an associate found the specifications for 20K (?) Mausers the Japanese ordered in the mid 30's in German Archives. It is possible that a document authorizing mum removal exists in the National Archives in Disneyland East (Wash. D. C.). |
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riceone
Joined: Aug 22 2003 Posts: 86 Location: Mississippi Delta
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 6:16 pm Post subject: Struck Mum |
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I went back today and visited my old Vetran friend who has the T 38 Carbine that I refered to in an earlier post. He said that when the bomb was dropped he was immediately sent to Japan to help destroy Japanes small arms. He said that he reached an arsenal about 80 miles south of Hiroshima the second or third week after the bomb. He said his detachment was the first American troops to get there and brand new rifles and carbine were already ground and piled up outside in a pile as big as a house. They used torches and were cutting them up. Each man was allowed to take one rifle and he chose a carbine. He said the Japanese had defaced the mums before they arrived. He said that he had with him a carbine with the mum that he had picked up on the battle field in New Guina that was beat up and he threw it on the pile because he could not have but one. riceone _________________ Most people who preach tolerance are very intolerate. |
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arisakadogs
Joined: Oct 05 2003 Posts: 191
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Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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How's this for a twist? I recently picked up a nice Nagoya T-99 original series that has an untouched mum - However the safety has been ground! Mistaken identity?? |
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