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swadle · Joined: Dec 01 2009 Posts: 15 Location: Minneapolis, MN

I would like to give my type 30 a good cleaning and also take pictures of the different parts. we would like to shoot it this summer also. I was wondering how you get the front band off the one with the bayonet lug on it. Would you guys recommend taking it to a gunsmith before shooting it?
Thanks
Shawn

gwsiii · Joined: Aug 21 2003 Posts: 2228 Location: Hayden, AL

The metal piece that runs below the band, along the underside of the stock in-line with the bayont lug is a spring, press it in and work the band off. You may need a dowel, a piece of leather, and a small C-clamp.
It never hurts to have a qualified gunsmith check a weapon over before firing. Be sure and fill out a Type 30 data sheet for Frank.
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swadle · Joined: Dec 01 2009 Posts: 15 Location: Minneapolis, MN

thanks. I know I will fill out a data sheet. I love Franks book.

wilbur46 · Joined: Feb 16 2010 Posts: 12 Location: N. Calif

Although I am new to this forum, I see lots of rifles in various conditions at our local range. We have adopted a new policy. Everything must be checked by a smith, or by someone who has lots of experience and a set of headspace guages.
The problem with random bolts is especially serious.
Our local smith spends 15 minutes and charges $45. Better than getting a bolt in the eye!!!!
Regards, Wilbur

swadle · Joined: Dec 01 2009 Posts: 15 Location: Minneapolis, MN

I need to find a gunsmith for sure. The gun is over 100 years old and hasn't been shot since 1944. Does anyone know of a gun smith in the Twin Cities that works on old Japanese guns? I just want my Grandpa who brought it back to shoot it. It seems to be in great shape.

wilbur46 · Joined: Feb 16 2010 Posts: 12 Location: N. Calif

I can't see one from here, but a specialist in Japanese rifles isn't necessary.
If there is not a smith in the local yellow pages, you might ask on the CMP forums. They are definitely nation wide>
Regards, Wilbur

swadle · Joined: Dec 01 2009 Posts: 15 Location: Minneapolis, MN

There is gunsmiths but one I contacted said he didnt have the right gauges. i will find one. I took it apart and going to clean it really good. Lots of different symbols under the receiver, I counted around 13.

DEFUC · Joined: Aug 17 2004 Posts: 201 Location: UP of michigan

A inspection is always a good idea ,if your not familiar with weapons,ranges requiring a "head space" check is a safety factor,simply for the range,so they can say "look at everything we do for safety" should there ever be a incident,its a popular liability catch word,with little or no meaning in the realm of these type weapons..and unfortunately the average gunshop smith, doesnt know crap about military rifles especially old ones,so a inspection by a knowledgable expert is worth 10x as much as the kid at the gunshop with a diploma and a set of go-no go's .So find someone who knows about antique and military spec arms and get a proper inspection ,if you arent familiar with the rifle/pattern and what flaws to look for.A mismated bolt isnt a issue so long as its proper and engages/locks correctly,the T30's are old and saw a lot of training use in most cases,so all sorts of weird things got done to some of them,and it takes someone who knows/understands them to spot sometimes,simple excess headspace is pretty much a non-issue with weapons of the japanese rifles types,however buggered up amatuer gunsmith stuff or maltreatment in the past,can kill you,so always inspect or get inspected a old surplus gun,by someone qualified for that type weapon,again most shop smiths arent.

riceone · Joined: Aug 22 2003 Posts: 86 Location: Mississippi Delta

If the rifle looks ok, make sure the barrel is clean and open. Go to a safe place you can shoot it, tie it to a car tire and pull the trigger with a long string. Inspect the rifle and see if anything has changed. Inspect and compare the fired case to an unfired one. If everything looks OK, it is. A compitent gun smith for a Japanese rifle? Find someone who collects them. Sold a 6.5 barrel to a guy and he carried it to three compitent gunsmiths to get it installed and they said it would be unsafe to do. riceone
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arisakadogs · Joined: Oct 05 2003 Posts: 191

To remove stubborn front bands I use a small piece of hardwood that is slightly more narrow than the spring and about 3" long. Press down with it at the end of the spring close to the band and then tap on the end of the piece of wood with a mallet. Works every time (for me at least) & doesn't damage anything.

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