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Francis C. Allan



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:37 pm    Post subject: Another ID problem Reply with quote

The second of four rifles that I can not ID from the 1929 booklet displaying the reference collection of the Tokyo Arsenal is the following. Can anyone ID this one? It is not a Portuguese Guedes-Castro as several people had thought, as that is on another page.

This page appears in the "Imported Weapons" section rather than the "Captured Weapons" section.

Page 68:
マルチ二ー類似銃
ma-ru-chi-ni-i RUI-JI-JŪ
“Martini Resembled Rifle”

Notes:
1) I have not been able to identify this rifle. It is apparently a lever-action single shot rifle. The text says that it is basically a Martini mechanism copy with some minor differences such as the firing position indi-cator.
2) The country of origin is not known, as a notation within the text point out that the origin is “a certain country” - 某國 – BŌ-KOKU. It appears that another country manufactured this Martini-type rifle, but the ar-senal workers were not able to identify the country. The text says the barrel has a serial number 6451 and comments that therefore it may not be a prototype or test gun, but must have been manufactured in quantity and actually used by “a certain country”.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks a lot like the guedes minus the tringle cocked piece...maybe a wessley improved internal cock peabody?
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Francis C. Allan



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:13 pm    Post subject: Guedes Reply with quote

Dear DEFUC;

It does apper to look or function like a Guedes, but those rifles have either a brass or steel actions. The lack of a hammer/cocking piece is important I think.

Thanks for the suggestion on the Wessley Improved Internal Cock Peabody. I'll follow up on that lead and possibly check with a friend in the UK.

Thanks for the help!!!

Frank
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