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gwsiii
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 Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: Murata/Matchlock conversion |
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Being attracted to cheap bourbon, nude women, and odd firearms, this caught my eye this week. It appears to be a Matchlock/Murata conversion. My question is, why?
 
 
Is it:- a true, circa 1880ish conversion by a Japanese arsenal or gunsmith?
- something made for turn of the century tourists?
- a wartime emergency weapon?
- something else entirely?
Your thoughts?
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Bushido101
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| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:38 am Post subject: Murata / Matchlock Conversion |
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| I am not sure about the origen, or why it was made in that fashion, but that is a really unusual rifle. I like it. |
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gwsiii
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| Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:48 am Post subject: conversion |
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Doss temporarily 'learnt' how log in and bid on it, 3 times, to try and get it and take it apart to see if anything could be gleened from it. Then he disremembered. Would have been nice to 'inspect' it first hand and see how it ticked. Trey
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ronin48
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: |
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There were no matchlocks converted to Muratas, it's impossible. Matchlock barrels cut and threaded for Murata receiver or "look-alike" machlock barrels fitted to a Murata action and action/barrel fitted to a match lock stock.
Why? Why did some take a Model A Ford and drop in a Ford flathead (this in the 1950s)? Old style with modern features, or....? |
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Edokko
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| Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Full cartridge bullets may be a toughy from the imbalance of a Murata receiver and a matchlock barrel strength, but perhaps these were modified to shoot the Murata shotgun cartridges ? Since a match / ball would be totally obsolete by the Meiji era, owner may have wanted to reuse the hardware as a bird-gun. Firearms improvement happened in a very short time in that era, and I won't be surprised if there were some very funky hybrids, especially since a brand new full Murata rifle or a shotgun must have cost a fortune back then. |
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gwsiii
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| Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:46 am Post subject: oddball |
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Would have been worth buying and taking apart just to record information off of. Would be nice if buyer was a BANZAI member and could fill in the blanks or send it to the 'Jolly Fat Man' for an article. Trey
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Edokko
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| Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Don Schlickman just got one at a local gun show. Would be interesting what he finds out from his example. |
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