Japanese Militaria at Castle-Thunder.com

[gobernator]

Hello, this is my first message here, i hope you can help me.

first, i need same info of my special nambu in 9mm parabellum, the barrel is original, and thicker than the normal (8mm) barrel (mine is 14mm thick and the normal in 8mm is 12 mm thick) , so it is a special and original nambu madewith this barrel with marks, and exact to the 8mm one except the caliber.

My gun has year 5.8 with small trigger guard

second, 2 days ago the piece to extract the brass (do not know the name in english extracter i think) broke

any idea where can i buy a new one??

here are same photos, sorry, the camera is rabish.

[gwsiii]

Welcome to to forum, sorry for the delay, I've been out of town. I have one, it looks to be an old conversion, once I get unpacked I'll try and post some pictures of it. I'll check with the Nambu guys and see if I can get you a good answer and a source for parts. I don't believe the Japanese would have converted it to 9mm, it is most likely a post war conversion, but I'll check my reference material to be sure. Trey
_________________
Subscribe to BANZAI!
Fill out a Japanese Rifle Datasheet.
I didn't pay to much for that old Arisaka, I just bought it a little bit too soon!

[gobernator]

Hello, thanks for the reply, i was told that during the war there was an change between Germany and Japan (mauser and nambu), and then japan made a few nambu in 9 pb for the german army, and germany made a few mauser c/96 in 8mm for the imperial army. Could it be true???
Have anybody see a mauser in 8mm nambu???

thanks

aitor

PS: I need an extracter!!!!!! help!!!!!

[gwsiii]

In Japanese Military Cartridge Handguns 1893-1945 (Hand Cannons of Imperial Japan revised) By Derby and Brown...Japanese Ordnance personel indicate no caliber conversion/tests were performed on the Type 14s, prior to or during the war. It goes on to state that there are some Thai, Indonesian, Korean, Vietnamese, and Chinese conversions to 9mm in the post war era, as well on the typical home gunsmith conversions to 9mm, but, the action is not designed for the higher pressure cartridge, and thus would not be safe to shoot. In some cases Luger barrels were rethreaded and fitted to complete the conversion. Chances are, had the Japanese converted it, they would have marked it as being either, unsafe to shoot, or with the new caliber to prevent confusion. I have seen a few of the 6.5 Japanese rifles that were used in 7.7 Japanese conversions, and they were all marked with the new caliber. Trey
_________________
Subscribe to BANZAI!
Fill out a Japanese Rifle Datasheet.
I didn't pay to much for that old Arisaka, I just bought it a little bit too soon!

[gobernator]

THANKS

and what about the thicknes of the barrel??

BARREL FOR 8MM NAMBU IS 12 MM
BARREL FOR 9PB IS 14 MM

yours is a 12 mm barrrel modificated to a 9 parabellum or is like mine a thicker barrel (14mm)???

i mean that making a special 14 mm barrel and exact to the original one is not easy.

and what about the mauser in 8mm nambu, do you know anything???

i shoot with mine with 3,5 grains

[gwsiii]

Mine is a thicker than normal barrel. I've never heard of a mauser in 8mm nambu caliber. I have heard of Lugers that are marked with bad kanji indicating that they are Type 14s. These have been discounted as fakes for the most part.

_________________
Subscribe to BANZAI!
Fill out a Japanese Rifle Datasheet.
I didn't pay to much for that old Arisaka, I just bought it a little bit too soon!

[gobernator]

so.............

1) who made this nambus in 9mm pb?

2) is that true that there are mauser c/96 in 8mm?

3)mine is not maked as yours in the barrell, but the barrell is exact to the 8mm nambu except thickness and caliber......¿¿¿¿????


thanks again i will continue my investigation

[gwsiii]

Got this reply from Jim Brown, Co-Author of Japanese Military Cartridge Handguns 1893-1945.

[gwsiii]

Contact Don Schlickman dfsjpn@aol.com for an extractor. Good Luck. Trey
_________________
Subscribe to BANZAI!
Fill out a Japanese Rifle Datasheet.
I didn't pay to much for that old Arisaka, I just bought it a little bit too soon!

[gobernator]

thanks!!!!

is there any way to know the history of my particular nambu using the production number??

number 14785
date 5.8

thanks again, you all are very kind!!!

[type-14]

Frist I can only add what Jim Brown and others have already said and that it was not done by the Japanese and most likely done post war. I have seen a number of conversion from 22 cal, 32ACP and 9mm. As for your pistol it was made in Aug. 1930 (5.8 ) and using Dan Larkin's listing looks to be made towards the end of the month. Unless you have capture or bring back papers it, it is almost impossible to find out much more history on it. I hope this helps.

[gwsiii]

5.8 would be August 1930 wouldn't it? Trey
_________________
Subscribe to BANZAI!
Fill out a Japanese Rifle Datasheet.
I didn't pay to much for that old Arisaka, I just bought it a little bit too soon!

[type-14]

I stand corrected

[gobernator]

Yes, it is august 1930, a man in Madrid who has a armory, 2 or 3 years ago imported 5 nambu, 4 of them in 8mm and one (mine) in 9mmpb, now this man is retired and know nothing more about him

i think it will be interesting to find if it exist that possible mauser in 8mm because that will prove that this pistol was transformed by the japanese during the war.

as far as i know in spain are 7 nambu typ 14, 6 of them in 8mm and deactivated and mine in 9mm working fine

do you think it is an interesting gun to collect?

HERE ARE GOOD PHOTOS OF MY NAMBU

[gobernator]

THANKS FOR THE INFO ABOUT Don Schlickman, i just order my extracter an few things, nice guy both!!!