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one50
Joined: Jul 25 2007 Posts: 17 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: T-99 25th Series "Type 99" |
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I was looking through at a few series 25 T-99's at the gun shop recently 2 of which were the same...SN around 71xxx. They both looked the same and had the same features (There is something about chatter on the grip that is sooo cool) Anyway...The 3rd rifle was SN 41xxx and it had the characters on it for "Type 99". Fred Honeycutt's book says that was deleted around 20xxx-32xxx. Trey? Since your collecting the data on these, does your data say other wise? What do you think? Could this rifle be right at the end of deleting? Did deleting the characters stop at a certain number or was it intermittent between 20 and 40k?
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gwsiii
Joined: Aug 21 2003 Posts: 2240 Location: Hayden, AL
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:17 am Post subject: A receiver |
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the 'A' receivers appear to have stopped in the 20k range as Fred indicates. A 41k would definitely be an oddity to have, I don't have any data on anything higher than that with an 'A' receiver. Trey _________________ Subscribe to BANZAI!
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one50
Joined: Jul 25 2007 Posts: 17 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:03 am Post subject: |
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I'll check it out closer this weekend and get you more data on it. Thanks for the info.
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gwsiii
Joined: Aug 21 2003 Posts: 2240 Location: Hayden, AL
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: receiver |
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Dan, appreciate your help! Trey _________________ Subscribe to BANZAI!
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Mike Rockhill
Joined: Jan 09 2006 Posts: 58 Location: SE Pennsylannia
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like a very cool rifle. I like 25ths alot. If you were looking to buy one, an oddity such as this would be a worthy addition....I deffinetly would, it would go nicely with my 89k 10th series w/ type A receiver _________________ Fat, Drunk,and Stupid is no way to go through life son. |
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one50
Joined: Jul 25 2007 Posts: 17 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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Trey and Mike you both talk about an "A" receiver. What exactly do you mean by that? I have never heard that before.
Also did the 25th series have inspection marks on the stock?
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Dan
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one50
Joined: Jul 25 2007 Posts: 17 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:06 am Post subject: |
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I checked out the rifles this weekend. I filled out the data sheets for you Trey. I have your email....can I send you a word document or excel file?
I am sorry It was not a 41k it somehow changed to a 22k. I don't know how the Japanese made those rifles with the revolving serial numbers
I have to learn to keep my excitement down until I have the real data in my hands.
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gwsiii
Joined: Aug 21 2003 Posts: 2240 Location: Hayden, AL
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:45 am Post subject: receiver |
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an 'A' receiver refers to the type receiver, (question 8 receiver/chamber markings) designation on the Type 99 Datasheets. An 'A' receiver is a receiver that has/had a mum, markings for 'Type 99' and has dust cover grooves. It makes it easier to talk about your rifle (without pictures) to pass along the features your rifle has.
"Its a 93k Jinsen rifle, D receiver, E front band, A bolt release", translates to a very late Jinsen Type 99 with a receiver that had/has a mum, no dust cover grooves, a flat top front band, and an early bolt release. It allows you to address specific features of the rifle in conversation.
Stock inspection marks were deleted in the late 23rd series. We all mess up serial numbers from time to time in the 'heat of the battle for acquisition'. Looking forward to the sheets. thanks for you help. trey _________________ Subscribe to BANZAI!
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drpoulos
Joined: Dec 21 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:40 am Post subject: |
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I just bought a low number 25th series rifle with an "A" receiver and a pristine mum. It also has a number of the earlier features like a metal butt plate, graduated sights, and a full size hand guard. |
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gwsiii
Joined: Aug 21 2003 Posts: 2240 Location: Hayden, AL
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:57 am Post subject: 25th series' |
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drpoulos, welcome to the forum! An early 25th is a significant variation. Please send me a datasheet when you get a chance. I've had 2 early ones, under 10k that had multi-piece stocks, and seen about 4 more. By multi-piece I mean top or bottom of butt, or both top and bottom have an additional 'vertical splice'. One I saw had a solid upper half of the butt, but the bottom half of the butt and stock all the way to the front band were both two pieces spliced vertically. Interestingly enough, three turned up in my area within about a year of each other. Likely, they came from the same warehouse and were brought back by guys from the same 'local' unit. Trey _________________ Subscribe to BANZAI!
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drpoulos
Joined: Dec 21 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Dear Trey,
I'll be glad to fill out the data sheet and send it to you.
I also purchased a high number 5th series Nagoya. Would you like a data sheet on that one as well? The screws are all staked so I can't take it completely apart like the Kokura.
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gwsiii
Joined: Aug 21 2003 Posts: 2240 Location: Hayden, AL
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:36 am Post subject: rifles |
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Steve, please send a sheet on any Type 99 Rifles you have. Don't disassemble if the screws appear to be staked, wouldn't want anyone to mess up an otherwise pristine rifle by boogering the screws trying to get them out. Thanks for your help! Trey _________________ Subscribe to BANZAI!
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drpoulos
Joined: Dec 21 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Orange County, California
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Trey,
How wide is the widest part of the "A" metal buttplate?
What is a "Kanji" marking?
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gwsiii
Joined: Aug 21 2003 Posts: 2240 Location: Hayden, AL
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:02 am Post subject: questions |
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Steve, it will be the same as your 5th series, in which case it would be an 'A' cup. I'm not in the 'den of sin' right now, been baking all afternoon and night with #1 son, and #1 daugher. The thin metal buttplate 'b' is found on 7th and 9th series rifles. Will try and get measurements as the weekend progresses. Kanji are the Japanese characters for 'words', just one kanji symbol usually equals one or more or our english words or thoughts. Mistakenly, any Japanese marking on a weapon or accessory is usually referred to as 'kanji, but what we refer to as 'kanji' can be a number of different things in the Japanese language. We'd need one of the translators to truly clarify the definition. I apologize if I'm in error. Trey _________________ Subscribe to BANZAI!
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