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Found few stuffs but need help identify the samauri swords!

 
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zerohypert



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Found few stuffs but need help identify the samauri swords! Reply with quote

Hi Guys.. kinda new to the forum but been browsing a lot lately! Anyways! Let me show you guys what I found and tell you the story how i found out.



My fiancee found it by accident.. believe it or not.. she was cleaning out of this big closet and noticed that the carpet was a bit loose at the corner and she decided to see what kind of floor we have underneath the carpet ..just out of curiousity...and she saw something and she pulled it off more and noticed that there was a door that had an access under the floor. She came to me while I was trying to sort things out in the house that i inherited from my great aunt, and she said... you should check this out.. you wont believe what I just found. So I followed her into that room and saw it. I tried to open it and it did and I found 4 swords and one dagger from germany and a possible civil war era baycott (not sure) and one is unknown.. I couldnt ID it.

I was kinda surprised why my great uncle had to go through hard work to make something like that just to hide those swords.... but i'll explain later on why he did that.

This is my findings!







I have two of those.. Art Fab Todelo 1890 and 1906....dont know much about it..








Samauri Swords.. one is from 1945 and other is unknown.. it has japanese symbols on it but other one where you put sword in...is leather and other one is metal... I need some people to help me identfiy this swords. I even took a high resolution to have a good close up and details on the blades

here are the links for high resolution pictures

With Flash
http://www.zerohyper.com/temp/DSC00838.JPG


Without flash.. its better!
http://www.zerohyper.com/temp/DSC00839.JPG

Let me know what you guys think. Thanks





Possibily Civil War Era Baycott... it was a nice find though





Unknown.. i couldnt find any markings on it! I wish I could figure out on this one





nearly in mint condition... it looks really nice.. this Hirschfanger dagger from germany


You guys probably would be wondering why my great uncle had to work hard to make a nice hidden floor for those items... and I spoke with my mother about it....my mom was raised by her aunt/uncles.. which means they are my great aunt/uncle. Anyways the point is that he designed those floor to hide the gold bars as part of his investments. When he knew his life would be over soon and he decided to take those bars out and sold it and put it into some kidn of account (that's for me but i prefer to have a gold bar on my hand to feel it ha) Those floor werent the only one place he hidden.. I found other place where he hid those and I found out that he did kept some bars and silver dollars coins....A LOT of them.. he purchased thoses from store.. in bulk and kept it in secret place for like forever until he sold it again and put the money in account. So I believe that he left those swords behind and I just assumed that he knew they didnt have that much of values. You know.. silver dollars and gold bars.. woot.. if I were him.. I'd leave those swords behind but I dont know the value of those items that I just found.. but if its pretty high.. I wouldnt mind to sell those and buy myself a gold bar as an investment starter! Smile


Sorry if this post is too long!

Travis
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Japanese sword Reply with quote

I don't know much about the other things, but the Japanese sword is interesting. You need to get under the English tag and look at the crude Japanese characters on both sides of the tang. If you can photograph them we can probably tell you a lot more. DO NOT destory the tag if at all possible. Also please photograph the wavy line - if there is one - on the blade edge itself.

Get the other stuff to experts and get profession estimates from someone who you tell you are not selling them, but want an estimate for insurance purposes only, even if you are interested in selling them.

Great find and wonderful story. Good luck.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Japanese sword Reply with quote

Francis C. Allan wrote:
I don't know much about the other things, but the Japanese sword is interesting. You need to get under the English tag and look at the crude Japanese characters on both sides of the tang. If you can photograph them we can probably tell you a lot more. DO NOT destory the tag if at all possible. Also please photograph the wavy line - if there is one - on the blade edge itself.

Get the other stuff to experts and get profession estimates from someone who you tell you are not selling them, but want an estimate for insurance purposes only, even if you are interested in selling them.

Great find and wonderful story. Good luck.

Frank


Thanks Frank! Well I am trying to find an expert.. but i dont know where to start.. so I thought i'd start with an internet and see if I can get someone to see it.

Speaking of wavy lines.. i posted two links right below those samauri swords pictures.. those links contain high resolution pictures.. 2 MB picture.. I couldnt post it here because the files are too big to be posted .. I believe there are wavy lines.. as you can tell in the picture..
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: stuff Reply with quote

Z, welcome to the forum! Like Frank, I can tell you next to absolutely nothing about the non-Japanese stuff. I have seen similar German daggers, in the $75 to about $250 range, but I don't know that I've seen any sell. As Frank suggested, any markings on the tang of the sword would need to be identified before determining a value, and alas, I am not up on sword values either.

Try sitting your camera on a table, zoomed all the way out, figure out how to use the timer, and position the sword on the table across from the camera. If the camera has a 'macro' setting (close up autofocus) use it, and through trial and error practice taking pictures using the timer. Your pictures should improve 100%, you don't have to take high res (big) pictures for internet screen sizes, most of mine are taken at 1024x768 or 800x600 and less than 1 meg in size. They come out pretty good. The sword guys will definitely need to know if there are any markings on the tang of your sword. Trey
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The one you have unknown written under is a nepalese ghurka kukri I belive (tho it prolly aint spell'd that way) looks like it might be a fairly nice one .I like the hirschfanger, but without really seeing it Im not sure if its an old one or a high quality repro, tho my thought is repro (Id almost bet on it,but my eyes are no good).
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