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Garandshtr · Joined: Dec 27 2007 Posts: 109 Location: Palm Harbor, FL

Just thinking. (And back after a long absence, since I've been moving, and stuff like that.)
Can I use my C&R license to received a "bubba'd" Arisaka, since the official list says "original" rifles? I was considering taking on a project, and this question occurred to me, so I thought I'd see what anyone else has done.

thanks,
Mark

gwsiii · Joined: Aug 21 2003 Posts: 2240 Location: Hayden, AL

I think a sporter is ok, as it is a complete rifle (still), I'm pretty sure an action is not ok for c&r. That might be best answered by a letter/call to atf. Letter is better, you'll have something in writing. Anyone know for sure? Trey
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Helmets of Japan · Joined: Sep 01 2008 Posts: 18

Should be good considering you are really using the lisense for the receiver. If the Receiver meets the Criteria it should not matter what the rest of the gun looks like.

Mike

oopy38 · Joined: Aug 27 2003 Posts: 80

I would think "original" rifle would mean, "not a modern replica", as in say, a Uberti 1873 Winchester replica. The receiver, with the serial number is what is regulated, so if the stock has been cut or a scope mounted, that should not matter. A C&R license should do.

riceone · Joined: Aug 22 2003 Posts: 86 Location: Mississippi Delta

Its the receiver that you need the liscene for. All the rest can be shipped to anyone. riceone
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Garandshtr · Joined: Dec 27 2007 Posts: 109 Location: Palm Harbor, FL

Well, from the responses thus far, I'd have to say we have nothing definitive yet. I understand that the receiver is the part of the rifle that is serialized, and that's the part that requires an FFL. What I'm trying to determine is if any one has used their C&R license to receive "sporterized" (or 'Bubba-d', whatever term you prefer), since the eligible firearms specify original. Here's the language:
All Original military bolt action and semiautomatic rifles mfd. between 1899 and 1946.

Yes, the word original is capitalized. So, I'm not sure if an altered rifle will fit the strict definition. I guess what I need to do is contact the BATFE, and get a ruling.

thanks,
Mark

riceone · Joined: Aug 22 2003 Posts: 86 Location: Mississippi Delta

Be that as it may but if I you were buying a stripped receiver from someone you would have to have a liscense. Back a number of years ago you could buy all the parts for an AK47 but the receiver with out an FFL. But to get the metal receiver you had to go through an FFL. Looks pretty clear to me. riceone.
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gwsiii · Joined: Aug 21 2003 Posts: 2240 Location: Hayden, AL

Basically, as I understand it. A sporter is still a complete 'original' gun and has been transferred on C&Rs, however, A barreled receiver is not an 'original' gun, and should probably go through an FFL. But, safest thing is to get a declaration from ATF. Trey
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kablam · Joined: Apr 03 2008 Posts: 36 Location: Maine

I have bought sporterized rifles with a C&R FFL (shipped to me) through a major auction house, so I'm pretty sure it's ok. I also know an FFL dealer who has sold SKS' with almost nothing "original" except the reciever to C&R FFLs.