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Collector seeks Inert Japanese Ordnance(PHOTOS)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:18 pm    Post subject: Collector seeks Inert Japanese Ordnance(PHOTOS) Reply with quote

Serious Collector seeks WWII era Inert Japanese ordnance.

Looking for oddball Japanese grenades, mines, aerial bombs, artillery shells larger than 75mm, Artillery projectiles 70mm and larger, Larger mortar shells and fuzes. I have special interest in improvised grenades, mines and related late war produced ordnance.

** I am not interested in the common Type 97, Type 99 "Kiska" and Type 91 grenades, 20mm, 25mm, 37mm, 70mm and 75mm shellcases, Type 100 81mm mortar shells. Smooth round ceramic grenades-Type 4**

Keep me in mind!

Jim

JapaneseOrdnance(at)yahoo.com


Japanese WWII Ammunition, ordnance, Ammo:
Aircraft Ammo larger than 20mm
Suicide Lunge mine
Japanese Magnetic mine
Japanese yardstick mine
Beehive AP cast iron mine
Ceramic type 3 pottery mine
Wood box type 3b mine
Seamines, beach mine (both single and double horn types)
90mm mortar shell
Navy 81mm type 3 mortar shell
120mm mortar shell
150mm mortar shell
Japanese Aerial bombs of all types and sizes
Giant Japanese shellcases 120mm, 150mm 200mm and larger.
Spigot rifle grenades
Late war Serrated Ceramic grenades, All types,

INERT material only!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:55 pm    Post subject: Picture of Japanes mines Reply with quote

Here are some pictures of my Japanese WWII INERT ordnance collection. This is the first time I've posted images to a website from the collection. This is more than twenty years of collecting.

This is all INERT Japanese WWII material.

First picture: Japanese mines: Massive ceramic booby trap mine, two Type 2 single horn beach mines, Type 1 double horn beach mine, experimental bounding mine, Type 3a ceramic mine, Type 93 tapemeasure mine, yardstick mine, suicide lunge mine(found near Clark airfield, Luzon, Philippines). No US training stuff here!

Second picture: Double horn beach mine, Type 92 15 kg bomb, Type 99 30 kg bomb, massive 150mm projectile, navy smoke marker, navy practice bomb, 150mm shellcase, yardstick mine and one Chinese 81mm mortar shell.

Third picture: Japanese type 2, 120mm mortar shell, Type 2 single horn beach mine(without fuze) navy type 99 bomb tail, wood box Type 3b mine.

4th picture: Spigot model 2 rifle grenade with spigot launcher, relic Type 91 spigot launcher with relic model 2 modification 1 rifle grenade. Type 98a stick grenade, Luzon(Philippines) made improvised pipe bomb grenade.

5th Picture: Left to right. Sand cast mould T97 grenade, Sling grenade warhead, Philippines Pipebomb grenade, Type 10 grenade, Type 11 incendiary/ smoke grenade


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:34 am    Post subject: pics Reply with quote

Wow, that is impressive, some seriously nice stuff, Thanks for posting! Trey
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:50 pm    Post subject: More pics Reply with quote

Here are a few more pics,

Top Pic: Inert Japanese Type 99 aerial bomb, Two original Japanese Yardstick mines. Massive Inert Japanese 150mm HE projectile.

Middle Pic: Inert Japanese Type 92 15 KG Shrapnel Bomb, Navy smoke bomb, Chinese 81mm 1930's vintage mortar shell, Japanese 150mm shellcase.

Bottom Pic: Left to right-Inert 15 KG bomb, Japanese Type 2 120mm mortar shell, Inert Type 99 30 KG bomb, Navy Type 99 bomb tail piece, Inert 150mm Projectile, 90mm HE mortar shell, 90mm HE semi-steel mortar shell, Chinese 81mm mortar shell, Japanese Ceramic experimental bounding mine, Several type 93 land mines some with paper labels intact.

ALL these are empty and INERT. I do not own or buy live material.

Jim






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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:36 pm    Post subject: More pics. INERT Japanese grenades Reply with quote

Here are two more pics, mostly Japanese grenades of various types.

Jim USA

First Picture: Group shot, Japanese grenades, bombs, fuzes, spigot launchers, improvised mortar shell, rocket, aircraft Ho 203 round.

Second Picture: Knee Mortar Shells. Left to right- Type 89, Type 95, Type 11, Type 10, Type 10 live training, Type 10 dummy, Type 10 dummy, Type 10 solid dummy, Type 10 w/o booster, Type 91.

Third Picture: Now identified: Not Japanese but Chinese Nationalist Type 28 (1938) Rifle grenade. I am told these are rare. This grenade was used in a unique Chinese designed cup launcher mounted on a Mauser copy rifle. Japanese unknown Type Pull igniter-Bakelite body, brass tube with cap and cotton pull string. (in foreground)








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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:26 pm    Post subject: More pictures Reply with quote

Here's a few more pictures, Japanese inert mines, bombs, grenades and other goodies. J

Top pic: Group shot of all inert Japanese mines.

2nd pic: Group shot of all Japanese Ceramic Ordnance, Including Giant ceramic mine, experimental bounding mine, several type 3 mines, several type 4 ball ceramic grenades, unusual serrated ceramic grenades-Two types.

3rd Pic: Pile of Original Japanese Type 3 landmines. (no trainers)

4th Pic: Japanese Mortar rounds. left to right: Navy Type 3 81mm shell-relic, Navy Type 3 81mm shell, Type 94 90mm Semi-steel shell, Type 2 120mm shell, Type 94 90mm standard shell, Type 100 81mm shell, Type 97 81mm shell. Foreground-Chinese 1930's vintage 81mm shell, with Japanese capture in Manchuria inscription.









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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: pics Reply with quote

That really is impressive, how about new rule? Trey gets 1 something out of each picture posted? Wink I didn't figure any body would go for that. Rolling Eyes Oh well, its a thankless job. Impressive collection!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:11 pm    Post subject: Thank you! Reply with quote

Thank you for the compliment, I started collecting Japanese militaria as a teenager in the mid 1980's and sometime around 1990-91 I began to aggressively pursue good Japanese Ordnance. I got the Lunge mine and relic aerial bomb early and that sparked an interest in Japanese Ordnance and it took off from there. Years of Gunshows, buying from militaria catalogs, Auctions, then ebay and the internet.

Jim USA

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:06 pm    Post subject: One more pic Reply with quote

Here's a photo from my Max show Japanese Ordnance display from ten years ago. I found this posted on the internet. Here it is again. Lunge mine, Naval mortar shells.

Jim
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: japanese type 4 clay grenades Reply with quote

i have a couple clay grenades, how much are they worth?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:07 pm    Post subject: Ceramic grenades and Improvised grenades (all Inert) Reply with quote

Prices vary but a range of $50 to $85 is realistic. I suggest not going over $100 unless it's a serrated type. Damaged grenades are a hard sell. The round Type 4's are fairly common but some glazing colors are more desirable than others. White unglazed is the most common and least interesting. I think Brown/red, pea green and black are desirable. A ceramic grenade that has maker marks is nice. It seems only about 25% of ceramic grenades have maker markings. I haven't encountered a ceramic grenade yet with the fuze intact. I guess you have to destroy the fuze to deactivate the grenade. You would think at least parts of fuzes would show up for sale but I have never seen them.


Does anybody have an intact ceramic type 4 grenade fuze out there? if so, post a picture.


The next picture is a group of Inert Japanese improvised/last ditch grenades. Two are the higher quality serrated types with brass fuze and threaded brass closing caps. One of these has cast serrations, the other seems to be hand turned serrations made on a lathe. These grenades were first encountered on Mindanao. The others are Philippine made pipe bomb grenades with 22 cal. starter cartridge fuzes. The top closing disk is friction fit. Delightfully crude! These were issued without paint.

In the foreground is a Navy 25mm shell used as an improvised grenade. There's traces of Picric inside the shell but Not enough to cause any concern. It was found near Clark airfield, Luzon Philippines. All are Inert.

Jim


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Beehive mine fuze? Seeking information. Reply with quote

This might be a Japanese Beehive AP mine fuze and adapter. See picture below, it's the Type 88 steel fuze and adapter directly in front of the smoke knee mortar shell. I'm looking for information about the mine. The Beehive mine is described and pictured in several US ordnance manuals. I'm looking for new pictures of an actual specimen.

Thanks.
Jim
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Here's some reference: Handbook of Japanese Explosive ordnance OPNAV 30-3M




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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject: Variations of Japanese WWII Ceramic Hand Grenades Reply with quote

Pictured are three different kinds of Japanese WWII ceramic grenade. On the left are the very common round type 4's. In the middle are the egg shaped variety with checker board serration pattern. These are lot marked on the bottom "10" and "15". The quality of these varies from excellent to very poor. Lastly, on the right are the serrated round types. This type is of very high quality and is unmarked. The large lip seems to offer some protection to the fuze. All the serrated grenades except one came out of Japan in the last ten years and are unquestionably original. I have little reference on serrated types of ceramic grenades. Also in existance and somewhat common is a Kiska shaped silver glazed ceramic training grenade with metal pull pin. Probably used in homeguard civil defense training.


Jim
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject: Here's a pic of some Japanese WWII Training grenades Reply with quote

Here are a few Japanese WWII era Training grenades.

Left to right: 1) Common Barrel shaped iron trainer, silver painted with wood filler cap. 2) Hard rubber barrel shaped trainer, Mfg marked. 3) Cast Concrete (?) trainer grenade-bought out of Japan 5 years ago. 4) Large Porcelain training grenade, unmarked.


Jim
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Here's another picture of Japanese Ceramic grenades. -Ceramic trainer-So called "Kiska" style and three serrated ceramic grenades.


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