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gwsiii
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 Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:52 am Post subject: Shibata Trainer |
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Hal From CA sent these pictures that Seinen has identified it as a Shibata Trainer. Very nice rifle, Thanks for sharing!
  
  
  
  
  
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Francis C. Allan
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| Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:39 pm Post subject: Trainer |
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Very cool. I have not encountered one of these previously.
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seinen
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| Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:17 am Post subject: |
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These Type 38 Shibata trainers are somwhat uncommon. Less commonly encountered are the Type 99 short and long rifle Shibata trainer variants. Most interesting is the observation that the Type 99 short Shibata trainers were manufactured on modified Type 99 short service rifle stocks. All of the modified stocks I've encountered so far are Kokura Arsenal proofed.
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gwsiii
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| Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:25 pm Post subject: trainer |
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Now that is pretty dang interesting. thanks for sharing guys!
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seinen
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Here are some photos of a Type 99 short Shibata trainer. As you can see, this one is mounted on a modified Type 99 service rifle stock. The monopod is a crude copy of the service type and is serial numbered to the trainer (734). This is the only example I've ever seen of a training rifle monopod.
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gwsiii
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:09 am Post subject: trainer |
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That is really interesting. Just another of those little things that you might walk right past if you saw it from a distance...
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type-14
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:21 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for sharing and thanks for the education on these trainers. I know I would have not known what I was looking at if I saw one. |
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gwsiii
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| Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:52 pm Post subject: handguard markings... |
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handguard markings....top to bottom 5 7 2...
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gwsiii
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:58 am Post subject: more photos |
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Incidentally the bayonet is a Nagoya Arsenal, Type 30 bayonet.
Here is another batch of pictures....When I get around to it, I'll make a reference page.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
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